Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 00:52:53 -0800 (PST) -------------- BEGIN bread-bakers.v098.n084 -------------- 001 - Jjnjjacobs@aol.com - Re: Digest bread-bakers.v098.n083 002 - Reggie and Jeff Dwork Subject: Happy New Year Wishes Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 23:32:31 -0800 (PST) Reggie and I want to wish all of you the very best of everything in the coming year. Happy Baking, Jeff & Reggie PS: We KNEAD more recipes! -- Reggie Dwork | Om Mani Padme Hung reggie@jeff-and-reggie.com | Owner eat-lf, bread-bakers, otbf mailing lists --------------- MESSAGE bread-bakers.v098.n084.3 --------------- From: "Bill Hatcher" Subject: Re: Bitter Dough Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 07:22:04 -0500 Jeanie - It would appear that there is a source of contamination from something. Assuming she is using clean utensils, and after using the same recipe successfully for 30 years that is a given, the only thing I can think of is that a strain of "wild" yeast (as opposed to that which comes from the package or jar) has taken up residence in her baking area. Yeast is always present around us, and is particularly prevalent in areas where baking takes place. It is KNOWN to mutate over time, and this is the reason that some of the renowned regional breads, such as San Francisco sourdough, are just not the same when made elsewhere by the same method and same ingredients. She may now have such a potent wild strain of yeast in her baking area that it totally overwhelms the cultivar she is trying to use from the package. A good way for her to test this is to make the bread in a different location, preferably at a friends house or somewhere else where she can be totally isolated from her normal baking surroundings. I have no suggestion for a long term solution; fungi are notoriously difficult to eradicate, so sterilizing her kitchen will likely be very difficult if this is, indeed, the problem. I would be very interested in hearing the resolution to this if one is found. Regards. --- Bill Hatcher bhatcher@beldar.com Southampton County, Virginia, USA > --------------- MESSAGE bread-bakers.v098.n083.2 --------------- > > From: JSvahula@aol.com > Subject: Bitter Dough > Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 16:07:01 EST > > A good friend of mine has made the same recipe for dinner rolls > for over 30 > years. It is a pretty basic recipe of flour, butter, sugar, eggs, salt, > water, yeast. The last time she made it, she routinely tasted the dough > before putting it aside to rise, and found it to be very bitter - > something > that had never happened before. So, she made it again and everything was > fine. Then the bitterness happened again the next time she tried. She is > unable to pinpoint it to one of the ingredients, i.e., eggs from the same > carton were used in both the bitter and good batches, likewise > the yeast, etc. > Does anyone have any ideas? Please help if you can! Thanks much. Jeanie > --------------- MESSAGE bread-bakers.v098.n084.4 --------------- From: Frank Cavalier Subject: Re: water rolls Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 00:06:31 -0500 Several issues ago casperfelix@juno.com inquired about water rolls. Hopefully, this recipe will come close. Lydia's Cold Water Yeast Rolls Categories: Yeastbreads Yield: 6 Servings 1 c Shortening 3/4 c Sugar 2 Eggs 2 Cakes yeast 2 c Cold water 6 c Flour, sifted 1 ts Salt Cream shortening and sugar; add eggs and salt. Dissolve yeast in cup cold water. Add flour and yeast mixture alternately. Add other cup of water and mix well. Let rise until double. Knead, roll out and cut. Dip in butter, let rise again. Bake in a 350 degree oven until golden brown. This dough can be frozen after baked or after it's first rising. When cut and buttered, place in pan and cover. Place in freezer and freeze. To bake frozen dough, remove from freezer, let thaw, rise and bake as above. Note: This recipe retrieved from http://www.k-tecusa.com/recipe/rolls/cwyrolls.html Cheers, Frank Cavalier From Giuliano Bugialli's Cooking in Florence class --------------- MESSAGE bread-bakers.v098.n084.5 --------------- From: Bob Polk Subject: Re: Digest bread-bakers.v098.n083 Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 06:16:59 -0800 That Outback Bread recipe was a great hit! Bob --------------- MESSAGE bread-bakers.v098.n084.6 --------------- From: Reggie and Jeff Dwork Subject: Looking for recipes Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 23:46:48 -0800 (PST) Here are some ideas to get you thinking about recipes: What are your favorite breads for the winter holidays? We are bored with our regular breakfast foods (cereal, eggs, etc). How about some recipes for breads/rolls/etc to make the center of breakfast? Soups are wonderful on cold winter days. What breads would you make to go with them? Reggie -- Reggie Dwork | Om Mani Padme Hung reggie@jeff-and-reggie.com | Owner eat-lf, bread-bakers, otbf mailing lists --------------- END bread-bakers.v098.n084 --------------- Copyright (c) 1996-2000 Regina Dwork and Jeffrey Dwork All Rights Reserved