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what a funny coincidence that just today i posted about maggie's wonderful book (_Artisan Baking Across America_ by Maggie Glezer) on my blog <http://www.realbakingwithrose.com/2008/11/> addressing exactly your question about texture! yes--maggie's recipes often use a pre-ferment which gives you wonderful flavor and texture. the recipe i did just this week for ciabatta has huge glisteny holes and not the slightest bit pasty. warmly, rose (levy beranbaum)