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RE: the breadman plus being noisy. I own one, and yes, it's very noisy. In fact, when it's mixing, it works so hard that it rattles things on the counter. ************************************************************************* Tracy L. Carter, Computer Programmer Technician PA100597@UTKVM1.UTK.EDU Univ. of Tennessee College of Social Work **DISCLAIMER: Any opinions stated are not the opinions of my employer! "A conclusion is simply the place where you got tired of thinking!"